Steps to Become an American Bully Breeder Part I: Deciding on a Class, Breed Standards, Classes: Pocket Standard, Classic, XL. Venomline Pocket Bully Kennels
Savage X Jada pups are heading out to their forever homes this week and over the weekend.Congratsto all of the new owners! Special thanks toNate Nmgon another collaboration and stepping up while I’ve been out sick.
Here is a video of the litter- Savage’s 1st. He definitely did his thing on this one and blew away our wildest expectations. Like all of our pocket bully studs, Savage is bred to produce (2X Venom) and carries all colors.
RECENT BREEDINGS
LOUIS V LINE’S VENOM X MOANA
Both Venom X Moana II & the Louis V Line’s Oro X Champion Ting breedings did not take, unfortunately it happens. We will be repeating Venom X Moana II in about 3.5 months. Venom will be back from an injury that has kept him sidelined for the past 6 months and has prevented him from live collections. We will be completing this breeding live next time out instead of shipping frozen semen. This will definitely increase the likelihood of this breeding taking next time out.
The 1st Venom & Moana breeding produced one of the best litters in years and was responsible for Venomline’s Rampage, Savage, Champion Ting, Keke, Vanna White & Bierra. All in the same litter! So, you can see why the repeat breeding is one that we’re very excited about.
PUPS FROM THE 1st 2X VENOM LITTER (VENOM X MOANA) AS ADULTS
COMPLETED BREEDINGS
The following breedings have been completed but are awaiting ultrasound confirmation to determine if the female “took” and are currently pregnant with pups in the oven.
KING V X XENA
King V completed his 1st breeding back on June 5th, but due to sickness in our family and restrictions due to the coronavirus, we are just now taking Xena in for her confirmation appointment.
Xena is scheduled for tomorrow Thursday July 23rd. We will be sure to update the Website tomorrow evening with the results for customers with picks reserved.
UPCOMING BREEDINGS
For those who’ve been waiting and wanting to reserve a puppy off of one of our upcoming breedings but have not been able to due to us being sold out and not accepting new reservations, we will be announcing several new upcoming breedings over the next week or two. There will be availability on many of these breedings, and after they are announced on our Website, we will begin accepting deposits for those interested in reserving a puppy.
Customers with deposits on breedings that didn’t take or where not enough males/females were produced will have 1st option at new breedings listed on our Website.
We are not accepting any new reservations until July 27th when all new breeding banners are in, but there will be availability on some of these upcoming breedings.
GRAND CHAMPION CHUMPER X NMG’S LUCY LUCIANNA
Lucy is currently in heat and will be bred to GrCh Chumper in the next week or 2.
LOUIS V LINE’S VENOM X FAITH
Faith should be going in soon after and will be bred to Venom.
UPCOMING BREEDINGS
2X VENOM NEW!
Venom X Diamond banner coming soon!
3 MORE UPCOMING BREEDINGS ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK!
Please check Available Pups for Sale & Upcoming Breedings for updates. We will announce the remaining 3 once breeding banners come back in and we can add them to our site.
VENOMLINE STUDS
Venom, Omega, Savage & King V all have confirmed litters on the way from Stud Services carried out. All Studs except for Venom are currently open to the Public.
MEET King V - son of Venom. While five-year-old Venom aka "Chunk" has been retired, his son King V is next in line to the throne.
Venomline is believed to be one of the most valuable American Bully bloodlines in the world and its owner, Matt Siebenthal, originally from Houston Texas, now located in South Florida. Before retirement, Venom brought in earnings of over $2 million dollars. Matt however has stated many times, even at the height of his popularity, that they would never sell him.
Venomline started out as Texas Size Bullies close to 9 years ago, but more recently changed the name of the kennel to Venomline to honor Venom's legacy in 2017. Matt and his partners have said that they are extremely happy with the dogs the line has produced, including a number of champions and a few of the youngest Champions & Grand Champions in the breed's history.
At just 12-months old, this phenom has already amassed a large following online with his first litter selling out months before the breeding took place with prices starting out at $10,000 per puppy. When asked, Matt told Barcroft Studios: “I think King V could absolutely be as successful or more successful than his dad Venom.”
The Venomline bloodline is known for producing some of the thickest dogs in the world, without sacrificing conformation or health. Pocket Bullies that exemplify breed type, known for having massive heads, dense bone, broad chests, wide shoulders, short muzzles and being packed rock solid with muscle on short & compact frames.
We are different than most kennels in the fact that we do not use a traditional kennel set up. Our dogs are part of the family, not kept locked up in kennels all day. We are proud to have produced many well known dogs that combine “wow factor” desired without sacrificing structure or functionality.
We are proud to have produced several ABKC Champions in the Pocket Class including one of the 3 youngest Champions & 2 youngest Grand Champions in breed history.
At Venomline, we place importance on functionality and our dogs display impressive athleticism despite the muscle and bone they carry. Our dogs are known for their look as much as they are for their gentle temperament. Our dogs are known for being great with both children and animals.
For our Upcoming Litters, Pups For Sale, Available Studs or to Reserve a Puppy or Stud please visit our Website: www.venomlinebullies.com
For more Articles & Information on the American Bully Breed on topics such as diet/health, training, breeding & more please visit our publication on Medium
THE FEMALES OF VENOMLINE
Venomline femalesare known for being some of the “bulliest” and most Extreme females on the planet. But what separates us from many other breeders are thefemalesused as part of our breeding program.
It’s simple to use a top Stud, anyone can do that… but at Venomline, we know that it takes both aTop level Studand a Top Level bitch to produce quality litters on a consistent basis.
VENOMLINE’S SWIZZ
QUALITY FEMALES ARE INTEGRAL TO A BREEDING PROGRAM’S SUCCESS
Femalesare integral to the success of any breeding program. Without using quality females to pair with Top Studs, litters more than likely just end up being a watered down version of what was initially intended. Knowing this, our primary focus for the past 8 years has been to produce the best possiblePocket Bully Femalesto match up with ourTop Tier Studs.
One thing that we never lost sight of as we added the dense bone, big blocky heads, muscular builds and Extreme features, is producing a complete dog. A lot of the “Extreme” American Bullies today, or at least many of the dogs being marketed as such.. are not what we would consider a complete American Bully.
ABKC CHAMPIONS VENOMLINE’S LIL TING & KHALEESI
VENOMLINE’S KHALEESI
ABKC CHAMPION VENOMLINE’S LIL TING
NMG’S LUCY LUCIANO
VENOMLINE’S XENA
VENOMLINE’S DOLCE
R&R’S GYPSY ROSE
VENOMLINE’S PRINCESS LEIA
ALPHABULLYCAMP’S ATHENA
VENOMLINE’S HALO
THE FOUNDATION & NEXT GENERATION FEMALES OF VENOMLINE
It’s fairly easy to add mass and Extreme features… what’s not easy is producing that on a complete bull. One with angulation along with a thick strong rear on a dog that may exhibit extreme traits but is still functional. If a dog can’t run and play, in our opinion.. that’s a failure.
There are not too many kennels that are currently combining the “wow factor” and extreme traits desired in the breed while also producing balanced dogs from head to rear that are fully functional and athletic for the breed and still able to excel in the show ring.
We hardly, if ever have pups on the ground waiting to be sold.Our littersare usually sold out by the time that the pups are born and most litters are reserved in advance.
If you are interested in apurchasing a puppyfrom us, please check out our available pups for sale below.
If you have questions about theright breeding for you, feel free to give us a call. Sometimes we miss messages on all of the social media sites.
If you call and leave a message we will do our best to get back to you as soon as possible.
HOW TO CONTACT VENOMLINE
Due to the amount of messages we receive on a daily basis on multiple platforms and due to the fact that owner Matt runs other businesses during work hours, the best way to reach Venomline is by text at:832–452–0898
A call can be scheduled to answer any and all questions but text is always the best way to initially get in contact, reserve a puppy or to book one of our Studs
LOUIS V LINE'S VENOM & SON VENOMLINE'S KING V AT THE PARK
Sunday we decided to take pocket American Bully father and son Venom & King V out to spend some father & son time together at the park. It was nice to get them out of the house (and away from the females) for some much needed father/son time. They were able to talk sports, about fishing and then they didn't talk at all.. Pretty much how us men prefer it.
It was also an opportunity to spend some time with the dogs and for me to shed a few tears over Chunk's son and King V's brother that passed away the day before. We will get into more about what happened below. But before we do, here are some photos and video of the father and son Sunday afternoon at the park.
VENOMLINE’S “RAMPAGE” GEORGE REST IN PEACE
It is with heavy hearts we announce the passing of a member of our pack. We lost a rising star in the bully world way before his time, and more importantly we lost a family member, Vic & Diona lost a son, and their children lost their best friend.
Rampage was a big teddy bear, a gentle giant and he loved his dad Vic and mom Diona. Please respect our time to mourn this loss and we ask that your prayers and thoughts go out to the Venomline Camp and the Limas family. Rampage was actually on the way down for a mini documentary featuring him, King V and several of our females.
A NIGHTMARE SCENARIO
About an hour into the trip Vic & Diona heard him start to breathe heavily, which was abnormal for him. Especially in an air conditioned car. This comes as a huge surprise as Rampage was in great health, had great scores on all his health testing, no murmur, elongated soft palate or a single issue. Vic & Diona did everything they possible could to save his life and are devastated.
Chunk after being stung by a bee
We do not know if he was tung by a bee or had a reaction to something at a rest stop. Some of you may remember when Venom “Chunk” almost died after being stung by a bee. But we were minutes away from an ER Vet and when it happened.
Unfortunately Rampage was over an hour away from the closest vet, as Vic & his family were all traveling down when they noticed he was panting heavily and his eyes were starting to swell up.
We will be finding out the exact cause soon, whether it was a bee or wasp sting, an insect bite or if he had an allergic reaction to something outside that caused anaphylaxis. It happened unexpectedly and sudden.
TO ALL AMERICAN BULLY OWNERS
Please be on guard when traveling with your bully. Especially to new environments. Pack an emergency kit and be prepared for when the unexpected occurs.
ANAPHYLAXIS
Anaphylaxis causes your immune system to release a flood of chemicals that can cause you to go into shock — your blood pressure drops suddenly and your airways narrow, blocking breathing.
ANAPHYLAXIS SYMPTOMS
Anaphylaxis symptoms usually occur within minutes of exposure to an allergen. Sometimes, however, it can occur a half-hour or longer after exposure. Signs and symptoms include:
Skin reactions, including hives and itching and flushed or pale skin
Low blood pressure (hypotension)
Constriction of your airways and a swollen tongue or throat, which can cause wheezing and trouble breathing
If there’s anything good that can come out of Rampage’s passing, we are reminding all bully owners that the unexpected can happen and tragedies can occur in a matter of minutes.
IN RAMPAGE’S MEMORY
To honor him, we’re asking that every bully owner to remember to always travel with a first aid kit. Benadryl, Alcohol swabs, lemon juice and an epi-pen for emergencies. Even with all of these on hand, tragedies can still occur. But hopefully this will save the life an another bully and spare another family from suffering through such a devastating loss. We are all heartbroken, please respect our time to mourn and show some love and support especially to our team members Vic & Diona. You’re gone way to soon, and we love you big fella.
TO CUSTOMERS WHO’VE RESERVED HIM AT STUD
To all who have reserved him at Stud- as always we will make sure you’re good. We just ask for a few days before contacting about business. This was more than just a Stud- this was a sweet and gentle big bear that made the lives of everyone who met him better.
He will be remembered for that huge George smile.
THE DAY AFTER
Still reeling from the loss and feeling a tremendous amount of guilt, I decided to take Rampage’s dad Venom, brother King V and littermate sister Lil Ting to the park to clear my head. As a partner, a co-owner or a friend- you’re supposed to be there for the other person. That’s what a partnership is all about: sharing in the losses and celebrating successes together as a team. To have the other’s backs and to stick together through thick and thin. No matter what. Maybe I’m old school, but shit like that means something to me.
THE DAY IT HAPPENED
But, this is where I failed, and it has stuck with me all afternoon and everyday sense. Saturday at around noon I spoke to Vic and got word they were on the way. I needed to catch up on sleep and figured Saturday would be a great time to do that. So I put my phone on Do Not Disturb, because it goes off non-stop throughout the day and I planned to watch a movie and get some sleep. I woke to around 30 missed calls about an emergency with George.
My phone was on Do Not Disturb. I was not there when my partners needed me. That shit is gonna stick with me for a while. But it’s not about me, it’s about how helpless Vic & Diona must have felt and me not being able to help when they needed me. I had no way of knowing this could of happened, and maybe I couldn’t have done anything to help save George in that moment, but maybe I could have.
I SHOULD HAVE BETTER PREPARED MY PARTNERS FOR AN EMERGENCY SITUATION
The thought that maybe had I been available when they needed me.. combined with the fact that I had prepared my partners for an emergency situation like this... maybe Rampage would still be here. I know better, I just didn't think about something like this happening on a quick trip down. That's on me. It’s been making me sick to my stomach sense Saturday.
Vic and Diona’s whole family were in the car with him when it happened and their kids are crushed. We all loved Rampage, but he was like a kid to Vic & Diona. As a Co-Owner you’re supposed to be there and to help care for the dog that you two produced, purchased or decided to own together. As a friend, you’re supposed to be there when the other needs you, and I wasn’t. I’m so sorry.
ABOUT VENOMLINE
Venomline is known for producing some of the thickest american bully puppies and adults in the world, without sacrificing conformation or health. Our Pocket American Bullies are known for having massive heads, dense bone, broad chests, wide shoulders, short muzzles, and being packed rock solid with muscle on short & compact frames. We are proud to have produced multiple ABKC Pocket Champions.
When you take one of our dogs into your home, you become family. We are different than most kennels in the fact that we do not use a traditional kennel set up. Our dogs sleep in beds and are a part of our family, not kept locked up in kennels all day.
We pride ourselves in producing dogs that have “wow” factor along with great temperament and athleticism despite the heavy muscle/bone they carry.
THE POCKET AMERICAN BULLIES OF VENOMLINE
Our dogs have been featured in Rolling Stone Magazine, BULLY KING Magazine, Bully Girl Magazine, in Music Videos and on television (NBC, Barcroft Animals)
We ship puppies worldwide. When we ship pups, our customers pick up their new family member from their nearest airport. If you’re a local, we will hand deliver your new pup. We provide a contract and registration papers as well as health certificate from a licensed veterinarian.
If you’re a breeder looking to improve your program, check out our Available Studs and Check out How our Stud Service works. We also ship semen Worldwide, and we are experienced and familiar with the import process in most countries.
Venomline is home to the best extreme build Pocket American Bully Studs and we provide Stud Service Worldwide. In the U.S. we have the Stud Collected and shipped Priority overnight so that it arrives on the day you need it. If you need help timing the breeding, we walk all of our Customers through the entire process: progesterone testing, types of AI’s, and the best ways to properly time a breeding.
We make the process easy and stress free.
REMEMBERING WHERE WE STARTED
At Venomline we remember what it was like when we first started. Paying for a well known Stud was a huge risk. We didn’t have a few grand to pay for a Stud and just “hope” that it worked out. But we still tried, and our female didn’t take.. This set our program and vision back over a year.
We paid a Stud Fee and our female didn’t take. Unfortunately it happens. But when we called about the repeat since she didn’t get pregnant, I was told that they do not offer repeats and that were basically “we shit out of luck.”
So we do things differently. If your female does not get pregnant we don’t just keep your money. This is just one of the many reasons so many of the top kennels choose Venomline when reserving a Stud for their program.
RECENT LITTERS OFF VENOMLINE STUDS
When the Heir Apparent is lost, it is the duty of the Crowned Prince’s to carry on the King’s Legacy.
“I will honor both my father’s name and my brother’s memory. I will make you proud”
- 11 Month Old TLB/Venomline’s KING V👑
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
NOT YOUR AVERAGE “BREEDER”
There’s not too much better than receiving a call from one of our Customers telling us “she took!” And that puppies are expected in about a month. It’s very exciting for Customers and it still is for us too. Occasionally breedings don’t take, it does happen. So what happens if you’ve paid for Stud Service only to find out 30 days later that she’s not pregnant?
What If My Female Doesn’t Take?
We will re-ship during your females next heat or you can use the Stud Credit towards a pup for sale or future breeding. If you choose to try again during next heat, you will not pay another Stud fee like many breeders would have you do. You just pay Fed Ex shipping and we will send again. We want you to succeed!
Will I Have Trouble Selling Pups I Don’t Plan on Keeping?
On top of covering unsuccessful attempts, we actually go many steps further. Since we know it can be difficult to sell a litter and get the prices you’re expecting.. and because we only breed to accepted Females- we will post your breeding on our social media outlets to help with sales.
Helping with Sales
We’re proud to Advertise our Studs going to a quality bitch. This will help you with sales, getting top dollar for your pups while growing your kennel’s following. Not to mention when using Venom, Omega, Rampage, Savage or King V (dogs that have huge followings)
This is just one of the many ways we go the extra mile for our customers. We have referrals available upon request and an entire group on Facebook where customers post and show off their Venom offspring.
Will I get a receipt with my Purchase?
Yes. You will receive a receipt for your records along with the Stud Contract stating everything we agree to carry out. This is for your protection as well as ours.
THE FEMALES OF VENOMLINE
Venomline females are known for being some of the “bulliest” and most Extreme females on the planet. But what separates us from many other breeders are the females used as part of our breeding program.
It’s simple to use a top Stud, anyone can do that… but at Venomline, we know that it takes both a Top level Stud and a Top Level bitch to produce quality litters on a consistent basis.
VENOMLINE’S SWIZZ
QUALITY FEMALES ARE INTEGRAL TO A BREEDING PROGRAM’S SUCCESS
Females are integral to the success of any breeding program. Without using quality females to pair along with Top Studs, litters more than likely just end up being a watered down version of what was initially intended. Knowing this, our primary focus for the past 8 years has been to produce the best possible Pocket Bully Females to match our Top Tier Studs.
One of the things that we never lost sight of as we were adding the dense bone, big blocky head, muscular build and Extreme features, was producing a complete dog. A lot of the “Extreme” American Bullies today, or at least many of the dogs being marketed as such, are not what we would consider a complete American Bully.
VENOMLINE’S XENA
CHAMPION VENOMLINE’S LIL TING & KHALEESI
VENOMLINE’S KHALEESI
CHAMPION VENOMLINE’S LIL TING & SWIZZ
NMG’S LUCY LUCIANO
VENOMLINE’S MOANA
VENOMLINE’S DOLCE
R&R’S GYPSY ROSE
VENOMLINE’S PRINCESS LEIA
ALPHABULLYCAMP’S ATHENA
VENOMLINE’S HALO
THE FOUNDATION & NEXT GENERATION FEMALES OF VENOMLINE
It’s easy to add mass and Extreme features… what’s not easy is producing that on a complete bull. One with angulation along with a thick strong rear. One that exhibits extreme traits but is still functional. A dog can’t run and play, in our opinion is a failure. We aim to produce dogs that will not only stack with any dog that’s brave enough to stand next to them, but also excel inside of the show ring.
There are not too many kennels that are currently combining the “wow factor” and extreme traits desired in the breed while also producing balanced dogs from head to rear that can still succeed in the show ring.
We hardly, if ever have pups on the ground waiting to be sold. Our litters are usually sold out by the time that the pups are born and most litters are reserved in advance. If you are interested in a purchasing a puppy from us, please check out our available pups for sale below.
If you have questions about the right breeding for you, feel free to give us a call. Sometimes we miss messages on all of the social media sites. If you call and leave a message we will do our best to get back to you as soon as possible.
HOW TO CONTACT VENOMLINE
Due to the amount of messages we have been receiving on a daily basis on multiple platforms and due to the fact that Venomline owner Matt runs other businesses during work hours, the best way to reach Venomline is by text at: 832–452–0898
It is with heavy hearts we announce the passing of a member of our pack. We lost a rising star in the bully world way before his time, but more importantly we lost a family member, Vic & Diona lost a son, and their children lost their best friend.
Rampage was a big teddy bear, a gentle giant and he loved his dad Vic and mom Diona. Please respect our time to mourn this loss and we ask that your prayers and thoughts go out to the Venomline Camp and the Limas family. Rampage was actually on the way down for a mini documentary featuring him, King V and several of our females.
A NIGHTMARE SCENARIO
About an hour into the trip Vic & Diona heard him start to breathe heavily, which was abnormal for him. Especially in an air conditioned car. This comes as a huge surprise as Rampage was in great health, had great scores on all his health testing, no murmur, elongated soft palate or a single issue. Vic & Diona did everything they possible could to save his life and are devastated.
[caption id="attachment_83267" align="alignleft" width="352"]Chunk after being stung by a bee[/caption]
We do not know if he was tung by a bee or had a reaction to something at a rest stop. Some of you may remember when Venom "Chunk" almost died after being stung by a bee. But we were minutes away from an ER Vet and when it happened.
Unfortunately Rampage was over an hour away from the closest vet, as Vic & his family were all traveling down when they noticed he was panting heavily and his eyes were starting to swell up.
We will be finding out the exact cause soon, whether it was a bee or wasp sting, an insect bite or if he had an allergic reaction to something outside that caused anaphylaxis. It happened unexpectedly and sudden.
TO ALL AMERICAN BULLY OWNERS
Please be on guard when traveling with your bully. Especially to new environments. Pack an emergency kit and be prepared for when the unexpected occurs.
ANAPHYLAXIS
Anaphylaxis causes your immune system to release a flood of chemicals that can cause you to go into shock — your blood pressure drops suddenly and your airways narrow, blocking breathing.
ANAPHYLAXIS SYMPTOMS
Anaphylaxis symptoms usually occur within minutes of exposure to an allergen. Sometimes, however, it can occur a half-hour or longer after exposure. Signs and symptoms include:
Skin reactions, including hives and itching and flushed or pale skin
Low blood pressure (hypotension)
Constriction of your airways and a swollen tongue or throat, which can cause wheezing and trouble breathing
If there’s anything good that can come out of Rampage’s passing, we are reminding all bully owners that the unexpected can happen and tragedies can occur in a matter of minutes.
IN RAMPAGE’S MEMORY
To honor him, we're asking that every bully owner to remember to always travel with a first aid kit- Benadryl, Alcohol swabs, lemon juice, and an epi-pen for emergencies. Even with all of these, tragedies can still happen, but hopefully this will save the life an another bully and could spare another family from suffering through such a devastating loss.
We are all heartbroken, please respect our time to mourn and show some love and support especially to our team members Vic & Diona. You're gone way to soon, and we love you big fella.
CUSTOMERS WHO'VE RESERVED HIM AT STUD
To all who have reserved him at Stud- as always we will make sure you’re good. We just ask for a few days before contacting about business. This was more than just a Stud- this was a sweet and gentle big bear that made the lives of everyone who met him better.
He will be remembered for that huge George smile.
THE FOLLOWING DAY
Still reeling from the loss and feeling a tremendous amount of guilt, I decided to take Rampage's dad Venom, brother King V and littermate sister Lil Ting to the park to clear my head. As a partner, a co-owner or a friend- you're supposed to be there for the other person. That's what a partnership is all about: sharing in the losses and celebrating successes together, as a team. To have the other's back and to stick together through thick and thin, no matter what. Maybe I'm old school, but shit like that means something to me. But, this is where I failed, and it has stuck with me all afternoon and everyday sense.
Saturday at around noon I spoke to Vic and got word they were on the way. I needed badly to catch up on sleep and figured Saturday would be a great time to do that. So I put my phone on Do Not Disturb, because it goes off non-stop throughout the day and I planned to watch a movie and get some sleep. I woke to around 30 missed calls about an emergency with George.
My phone was on Do Not Disturb. I was not there when my partners needed me, and that shit is gonna stick with me for a while. But it's not about me, it's about how helpless Vic & Diona must have felt and me not being able to help when they needed me. I had no way of knowing this could of happened, and maybe I couldn't have done anything to help save George in that moment, but maybe I could have.
The thought that maybe had I been available when they needed me.. maybe Rampage would still be here. It's been making me sick to my stomach sense Saturday. Vic and Diona's whole family were in the car with him when it happend... their kids are crushed. We all loved Rampage, but he was like a kid to Vic & Diona. As a Co-Owner you're supposed to be there for the other person and help care for the dog that you two produced, purchased or decided to own together. As a friend, you're supposed to be there when the other needs you, and I wasn't. I'm so sorry.
SUNDAY AT THE PARK "THIS ONE'S FOR GEORGE"
On Sunday I took Rampage's dad Venom, his littermate sister Champion Ting, and half brother & sisters Khaleesi and Swizz to the park to get out of my head.
Here's video of an afternoon out, honoring fallen Rampage. Outside playing and happy, just like he would have wanted it.
https://youtu.be/yAYvx-Y-P08
REMEMBERING VENOMLINE'S RAMPAGE "GEORGE"
George, We will all miss you.
Love,
Victor & Diona , Matt & Deanne, Dad Chunk, mom Moana & Your Littermate Brothers & Sisters
It’s been a few months since we’ve posted updated pics or Video of a few of our young up & coming Pocket Bully Studs and Females, and with COVID-19 keeping everyone stuck in the house.. we figured we’d use the dogs as an excuse to get out and get some fresh air.
So today Nate of NMG Bullies and I took the morning to head up to West Palm Beach and get some updated shots of the young bulls King V & Halo.
In addition to updated photos of some of the young up & coming pocket bullies- King V, Halo, Dolce & Princess Leia, below are photos of several of our dogs as puppies and again at adulthood. Enjoy!
VENOMLINE POCKET BULLIES: THEN & NOW
First we’ll start with updated photos of Venomline’s King V and Halo. King V is one of our up & coming Pocket Bully Studs with a ton of potential. He is one of 2 dogs in the World with his Pedigree. King V was produced in a Collaboration with our friends over at Texas Legendary Bullies . We bred Venom to a 2X Grand Champion Casablanca daughter Muscletone’s Remi.
VENOMLINE'S KING V
King V is Venom son and a 2X GrCh Casablanca grandson. And not just any 2X either. Remi is off of Casablanca bred back to his best daughter Muscletone’s Nikita (pictured below) He’s also 3X Magoo.
Muscletone's Nikita
Muscletone's GrCh Casablanca
VENOMLINE'S KING V
King V is not just the 1st and only Chocolate Tri Venom son, he’s also the only Venom son as short as Venom and the only Chocolate Tri American Bully with Venom, GrCh Casablanca & 3X Magoo. All 3 Legends in the 1st 3 generations.
While Muscletone isn’t a bloodline we’ve decided to incorporate before, there’s no denying both Casablanca & Magoo were phenomenal dogs and both were incredible producers. Anyone that says otherwise is lying to you. With Venom we were able to shorten up the stock, shorten up the back and of course he added his signature headpiece. We’ll never choose structure over color, but when you get both in one dog, it’s icing on the cake.
King V is also one pretty MF. We’re all about thick bone and extreme features on a show quality frame, but if it’s a Venomline dog… it’s not enough to have the dense bone, head and structure… it’s gotta be pretty. We want our customers to be able to excel in the show ring, stack with the best and also stop traffic.
When people see a Venomline dog for the 1st time, they should either immediately recognize the look, or if they’re newer to the breed- ask “ok now tell me where you got that dog from.”
VENOMLINE’S KING V: THEN & NOW (AT 10 MONTHS)
King V is currently only 10 months old, so while it's too early to call him a Future Star or Top Stud, we will say that we are blown away by his progress thus far. He had a bigger head than his dad Venom at this same age with a better stop.
He's got a long way to go before he's anywhere near his old man, but he's on track to be a very special young stud.
VENOMLINE’S HALO
Our most recent keeper female is none other than Venomline's Halo. Halo was produced when we bred GrCh Rocko to Swizz. This girl has it all, we can't wait to get her in the Show Ring to compete.
Pictured below is Halo at around 15 weeks and gain about a month and a half later, at 4.5 months.
VENOMLINE’S HALO THEN & NOW (AT 4 MONTHS)
VENOMLINE'S DOLCE THEN & NOW
VENOMLINE’S PRINCESS LEIA
RECENT LITTERS OFF VENOMLINE STUDS
ABOUT VENOMLINE
Venomline is known for producing some of the thickest american bully puppies and adults in the world, without sacrificing conformation or health. Our Pocket American Bullies are known for having massive heads, dense bone, broad chests, wide shoulders, short muzzles, and being packed rock solid with muscle on short & compact frames. We are proud to have produced multiple ABKC Pocket Champions.
When you take one of our dogs into your home, you become family. We are different than most kennels in the fact that we do not use a traditional kennel set up. Our dogs sleep in beds and are a part of our family, not kept locked up in kennels all day.
We pride ourselves in producing dogs that have “wow” factor along with great temperament and athleticism despite the heavy muscle/bone they carry.
THE POCKET AMERICAN BULLIES OF VENOMLINE
Our dogs have been featured in Rolling Stone Magazine, BULLY KING Magazine, Bully Girl Magazine, in Music Videos and on television (NBC, Barcroft Animals)
If you’re a breeder looking to improve your program, check out our Available Studs and Check out How our Stud Service works. We also ship semen Worldwide, and we are experienced and familiar with the import process in most countries.
Venomline is home to the best extreme build Pocket American Bully Studs and we provide Stud Service Worldwide. In the U.S. we have the Stud Collected and shipped Priority overnight so that it arrives on the day you need it. If you need help timing the breeding, we walk all of our Customers through the entire process: progesterone testing, types of AI’s, and the best ways to properly time a breeding.
We make the process easy and stress free.
REMEMBERING WHERE WE STARTED
At Venomline we remember what it was like when we first started. Paying for a well known Stud was a huge risk. We didn’t have a few grand to pay for a Stud and just “hope” that it worked out. But we still tried, and our female didn’t take.. This set our program and vision back over a year.
We paid a Stud Fee and our female didn’t take. Unfortunately it happens. But when we called about the repeat since she didn’t get pregnant, I was told that they do not offer repeats and that were basically “we shit out of luck.”
So we do things differently. If your female does not get pregnant we don’t just keep your money. This is just one of the many reasons so many of the top kennels choose Venomline when reserving a Stud for their program.
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
NOT YOUR AVERAGE “BREEDER”
There’s not too much better than receiving a call from one of our Customers telling us “she took!” And that puppies are expected in about a month. It’s very exciting for Customers and it still is for us too. Occasionally breedings don’t take, it does happen. So what happens if you’ve paid for Stud Service only to find out 30 days later that she’s not pregnant?
What If My Female Doesn’t Take?
We will re-ship during your females next heat or you can use the Stud Credit towards a pup for sale or future breeding. If you choose to try again during next heat, you will not pay another Stud fee like many breeders would have you do. You just pay Fed Ex shipping and we will send again. We want you to succeed!
Will I Have Trouble Selling Pups I Don’t Plan on Keeping?
On top of covering unsuccessful attempts, we actually go many steps further. Since we know it can be difficult to sell a litter and get the prices you’re expecting.. and because we only breed to accepted Females- we will post your breeding on our social media outlets to help with sales.
Helping with Sales
We’re proud to Advertise our Studs going to a quality bitch. This will help you with sales, getting top dollar for your pups while growing your kennel’s following. Not to mention when using Venom, Omega, Rampage, Savage or King V (dogs that have huge followings)
This is just one of the many ways we go the extra mile for our customers. We have referrals available upon request and an entire group on Facebook where customers post and show off their Venom offspring.
Will I get a receipt with my Purchase?
Yes. You will receive a receipt for your records along with the Stud Contract stating everything we agree to carry out. This is for your protection as well as ours.
THE FEMALES OF VENOMLINE
Venomline females are known for being some of the “bulliest” and most Extreme females on the planet. But what separates us from many other breeders are the females used as part of our breeding program.
It’s simple to use a top Stud, anyone can do that… but at Venomline, we know that it takes both a Top level Stud and a Top Level bitch to produce quality litters on a consistent basis.
VENOMLINE’S SWIZZ
QUALITY FEMALES ARE INTEGRAL TO A BREEDING PROGRAM’S SUCCESS
Females are integral to the success of any breeding program. Without using quality females to pair with Top Studs, litters more than likely just end up being a watered down version of what was initially intended. Knowing this, our primary focus for the past 8 years has been to produce the best possible Pocket Bully Females to match up with our Top Tier Studs.
One thing that we never lost sight of as we added the dense bone, big blocky heads, muscular builds and Extreme features, is producing a complete dog. A lot of the “Extreme” American Bullies today, or at least many of the dogs being marketed as such.. are not what we would consider a complete American Bully.
VENOMLINE’S XENA
CHAMPION VENOMLINE’S LIL TING & KHALEESI
VENOMLINE’S KHALEESI
CHAMPION VENOMLINE’S LIL TING
NMG’S LUCY LUCIANO
VENOMLINE’S MOANA
VENOMLINE’S DOLCE
R&R’S GYPSY ROSE
VENOMLINE’S PRINCESS LEIA
ALPHABULLYCAMP’S ATHENA
VENOMLINE’S HALO
THE FOUNDATION & NEXT GENERATION FEMALES OF VENOMLINE
It’s easy to add mass and Extreme features… what’s not easy is producing that on a complete bull. One with angulation along with a thick strong rear on a dog that may exhibit extreme traits but is still functional. If a dog can’t run and play, in our opinion.. that’s a failure. We aim to produce dogs that will not only stack with any dog that’s brave enough to stand next to them, but can also excel inside of the show ring.
There are not too many kennels that are currently combining the “wow factor” and extreme traits desired in the breed while also producing balanced dogs from head to rear that can still succeed in the show ring.
We hardly, if ever have pups on the ground waiting to be sold. Our litters are usually sold out by the time that the pups are born and most litters are reserved in advance. If you are interested in a purchasing a puppy from us, please check out our available pups for sale below.
If you have questions about the right breeding for you, feel free to give us a call. Sometimes we miss messages on all of the social media sites. If you call and leave a message we will do our best to get back to you as soon as possible.
HOW TO CONTACT VENOMLINE
Due to the amount of messages we have been receiving on a daily basis on multiple platforms and due to the fact that Venomline owner Matt runs other businesses during work hours, the best way to reach Venomline is by text at: 832–452–0898
LOUIS V LINE’S ORO X CHAMPION VENOMLINE’S LIL TING BREEDING
LOUIS V LINE’S ORO
ABKC CHAMPION VENOMLINE’S LIL TING
LOUIS V LINE’S ORO X CHAMPION VENOMLINE’S “LIL TING”
This litter is currently sold out, but we only accept deposits on the first 3 male and female picks. So should there be more than 6 puppies, or more than 3 of either sex, we will post them on ourPups For Salepage.
We update our Website every 24 hours, so for an updated list of Available Puppies for sale, Upcoming Breedings & to reserve a pick pleasevisit our Website
ABOUT VENOMLINE
Venomline is known for producing some of the thickest american bully puppies and adults in the world, without sacrificing conformation or health. OurPocket American Bulliesare known for having massive heads, dense bone, broad chests, wide shoulders, short muzzles, and being packed rock solid with muscle on short & compact frames. We are proud to have produced multiple ABKC Pocket Champions.
When you take one of our dogs into your home, you become family. We are different than most kennels in the fact that we do not use a traditional kennel set up. Our dogs sleep in beds and are a part of our family, not kept locked up in kennels all day.
We pride ourselves in producing dogs that have “wow” factor along with great temperament and athleticism despite the heavy muscle/bone they carry.
THE POCKET AMERICAN BULLIES OF VENOMLINE
Our dogs have been featured in Rolling Stone Magazine, BULLY KING Magazine, Bully Girl Magazine, in Music Videos and on television (NBC, Barcroft Animals)
We ship puppies worldwide. When we ship pups, our customers pick up their new family member from their nearest airport. If you’re a local, we will hand deliver your new pup. We provide a contract and registration papers as well as health certificate from a licensed veterinarian.
If you’re a breeder looking to improve your program, check out our Available Studs and Check out How our Stud Service works. We also ship semen Worldwide, and we are experienced and familiar with the import process in most countries.
Venomline is home to the best extreme build Pocket American Bully Studs and we provide Stud Service Worldwide. In the U.S. we have the Stud Collected and shipped Priority overnight so that it arrives on the day you need it. If you need help timing the breeding, we walk all of our Customers through the entire process: progesterone testing, types of AI’s, and the best ways to properly time a breeding.
We make the process easy and stress free.
REMEMBERING WHERE WE STARTED
At Venomline we remember what it was like when we first started. Paying for a well known Stud was a huge risk. We didn’t have a few grand to pay for a Stud and just “hope” that it worked out. But we still tried, and our female didn’t take.. This set our program and vision back over a year.
We paid a Stud Fee and our female didn’t take. Unfortunately it happens. But when we called about the repeat since she didn’t get pregnant, I was told that they do not offer repeats and that were basically “we shit out of luck.”
So we do things differently. If your female does not get pregnant we don’t just keep your money. This is just one of the many reasons so many of the top kennels choose Venomline when reserving a Stud for their program.
RECENT LITTERS OFF VENOMLINE STUDS
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
NOT YOUR AVERAGE “BREEDER”
There’s not too much better than receiving a call from one of our Customers telling us “she took!” And that puppies are expected in about a month. It’s very exciting for Customers and it still is for us too. Occasionally breedings don’t take, it does happen. So what happens if you’ve paid for Stud Service only to find out 30 days later that she’s not pregnant?
What If My Female Doesn’t Take?
We will re-ship during your females next heat or you can use the Stud Credit towards a pup for sale or future breeding. If you choose to try again during next heat, you will not pay another Stud fee like many breeders would have you do. You just pay Fed Ex shipping and we will send again. We want you to succeed!
Will I Have Trouble Selling Pups I Don’t Plan on Keeping?
On top of covering unsuccessful attempts, we actually go many steps further. Since we know it can be difficult to sell a litter and get the prices you’re expecting.. and because we only breed to accepted Females- we will post your breeding on our social media outlets to help with sales.
Helping with Sales
We’re proud to Advertise our Studs going to a quality bitch. This will help you with sales, getting top dollar for your pups while growing your kennel’s following. Not to mention when using Venom, Omega, Rampage, Savage or King V (dogs that have huge followings)
This is just one of the many ways we go the extra mile for our customers. We have referrals available upon request and an entire group on Facebook where customers post and show off their Venom offspring.
Will I get a receipt with my Purchase?
Yes. You will receive a receipt for your records along with the Stud Contract stating everything we agree to carry out. This is for your protection as well as ours.
THE FEMALES OF VENOMLINE
Venomline females are known for being some of the “bulliest” and most Extreme females on the planet. But what separates us from many other breeders are the females used as part of our breeding program.
It’s simple to use a top Stud, anyone can do that… but at Venomline, we know that it takes both a Top level Stud and a Top Level bitch to produce quality litters on a consistent basis.
VENOMLINE’S SWIZZ
QUALITY FEMALES ARE INTEGRAL TO A BREEDING PROGRAM’S SUCCESS
Females are integral to the success of any breeding program. Without using quality females to pair with Top Studs, litters more than likely just end up being a watered down version of what was initially intended. Knowing this, our primary focus for the past 8 years has been to produce the best possible Pocket Bully Females to match up with our Top Tier Studs.
One thing that we never lost sight of as we added the dense bone, big blocky heads, muscular builds and Extreme features, is producing a complete dog. A lot of the “Extreme” American Bullies today, or at least many of the dogs being marketed as such.. are not what we would consider a complete American Bully.
VENOMLINE’S XENA
CHAMPION VENOMLINE’S LIL TING & KHALEESI
VENOMLINE’S KHALEESI
CHAMPION VENOMLINE’S LIL TING & SWIZZ
NMG’S LUCY LUCIANO
VENOMLINE’S MOANA
VENOMLINE’S DOLCE
R&R’S GYPSY ROSE
VENOMLINE’S PRINCESS LEIA
ALPHABULLYCAMP’S ATHENA
VENOMLINE’S HALO
THE FOUNDATION & NEXT GENERATION FEMALES OF VENOMLINE
It’s easy to add mass and Extreme features… what’s not easy is producing that on a complete bull. One with angulation along with a thick strong rear on a dog that may exhibit extreme traits but is still functional. If a dog can’t run and play, in our opinion.. that’s a failure. We aim to produce dogs that will not only stack with any dog that’s brave enough to stand next to them, but can also excel inside of the show ring.
There are not too many kennels that are currently combining the “wow factor” and extreme traits desired in the breed while also producing balanced dogs from head to rear that can still succeed in the show ring.
We hardly, if ever have pups on the ground waiting to be sold. Our litters are usually sold out by the time that the pups are born and most litters are reserved in advance. If you are interested in a purchasing a puppy from us, please check out our available pups for sale below.
If you have questions about the right breeding for you, feel free to give us a call. Sometimes we miss messages on all of the social media sites. If you call and leave a message we will do our best to get back to you as soon as possible.
HOW TO CONTACT VENOMLINE
Due to the amount of messages we have been receiving on a daily basis on multiple platforms and due to the fact that Venomline owner Matt runs other businesses during work hours, the best way to reach Venomline is by text at: 832–452–0898
How did a relatively new breed go from virtually unknown, to the top of lists for fastest growing dog breeds each of the past five years? Let’s take a look at how it all began.
The United Kennel Club or UKC recognized the American Bully breed in 2013. There are other registries, but for the purposes of this article we will mention the main few- which are the ABKC, BBCR. BRC Global and the UKC.
THE AMERICAN BULLY KENNEL CLUB (ABKC)
According to the ABKC- The American Bully breed has been selectively bred to give America’s breed, theAmerican Pit Bull Terrier, a new direction and outlet. Like with the American Staffordshire Terrier (which is also an offshoot of the American Pit Bull Terrier) all of the positive characteristics of the breed’s ancestry were kept. These Include loyalty, stability with humans and children, along with many of their physical attributes.
Traits of dog and human aggression have been bred out, as they have no future purpose for this trait (outside of hunting & sport). A reinvented breed was formed, with the purpose of being the ultimate companion breed, and this breed is the “American Bully.”
THE UNITED KENNEL CLUB (UKC)
According to the UKC- The American Bully breed was subtly influenced by the infusion of several other breeds, which include the American Bulldog, English Bulldog, Pacific Bulldog as well as the Olde English Bulldogge among other Bulldog breeds. What differentiates the American Bully breed from it’s ancestors- the American Staffordshire Terrier and the American Pit Bull Terrier (aside from it’s genetic makeup) is the dog’s physical appearance.
The American Bully Breed is one of heavier bone structure and “bullier” build than it’s American Pit Bull Terrier and Staffordshire Terrier ancestors, but without many of the health issues prevalent in many of the breed’s Bulldog ancestry.
THE AMERICAN BULLY BREED TEMPERAMENT & PERSONALITY
To many people, it’s the perfect blend, a breed without the game drive of a Pit Bull, yet more active and with less health issues than many of the Bulldog breeds in its makeup. The result: a calm, confident breed of dog with a statuesque build and the muscle of a bodybuilder. Despite the American Bully’s fierce and powerful appearance their demeanor is gentle, making the American Bully an excellent family companion.
The breed is known for having an affinity toward children (they love kids) and a surprising ability to pick up on the emotions of their owners. A breed with a fun and quirky personality, a zest for life and an exuberant will to please their family. They are friendly with strangers, other dogs and most other animals. Human or dog aggression, extreme shyness or viciousness is very uncharacteristic of the American Bully and is highly undesirable.
THE BREED’S EXPLOSION IN POPULARITY
The American Bully first became one of the fastest growing new breeds in 2014 and it has remained in the Top 5 every year since. In 2018, the American Bully breed became the fastest growing dog breed in terms of popularity and it hasn’t shown signs of slowing down since. The breed is on track to finish 2019 in similar fashion. So why are so many falling in love with this breed?
CONFUSION ABOUT THE BREED
Even with the American Bully breed’s explosive growth and expansion into new countries and territories, there is still much confusion about the breed accompanied by several misconceptions and stereotypes. Inaccurate information online made worse by ill informed media have furthered misunderstanding regarding the breed. There are some who still confuse the American Bully with it’s cousin the American Pit Bull Terrier. But both are distinct and separate breeds, recognized by several respected registries as such.
BECOMING AN AMERICAN BULLY BREEDER
So.. the American Bully breed has caught your eye, but there’s so many different types, bloodlines and classes to choose from that it can be a little overwhelming at first attempting to decide where to even begin. That’s ok, we’re here to help. For those new to the breed one of the first decisions to make is deciding on a class.
DECIDE ON A CLASS
This is one of the first and often overlooked steps when deciding to purchase an American Bully puppy or adult. Ask yourself, what size of bully best suits your interest? Do you want something smaller or shorter? In this case, you’ll probably want a Pocket. Like your dogs bigger? Then you probably want a Standard. If that’s not big enough for you and you’re wanting something over 100lbs and massive, then the XL class is probably for you.
4 DIFFERENT AMERICAN BULLY CLASSES
There are four different classes in the American Bully. The difference between them is height (with the exception of Classic, which is simply the same height as the Standard Bully,, but carrying less mass) Once you’ve decided which size you prefer, next ask yourself what is your goal? Are you simply interested in a pet, or are you considering having a litter or showing in conformation events (dog shows)?
The answer to these questions will help you with where to begin your search and can also have a big effect on the price you will be paying. If you’re simply looking for a pet, you can find one for a much lower price than if you’re looking for a show dog or breeding stock. If you do plan to show or breed in the future, it often makes sense to pay for a higher quality dog than what you would be getting a pet prices.
It is important to note the ABKC got rid of the extreme class, initially a handicap So there are currently 4 Classes. The “Extreme” which was the same as the standard overall, but carrying more mass. This variety was initially allowed some of what they refer to, as “handicaps” meaning there was some leniency to certain traits beyond the standard.
This was because there was a huge amount of these dogs in the breed’s gene pool base and from a large bloodline within the breed; which was one of the founding bloodlines to be exact. The reason for the leniency is these were bigger heavier dogs that needed more time of development to achieve ideal conformation. The “handicaps” were designed to be eliminated over time until this variety met the same standards as the Standard.
Standard and Pocket are now not to be penalized for dogs carrying more mass as long as they are correct and balanced.
ABKC AMERICAN CLASSES 2014-PRESENT
POCKET
This is an amendment to the basic standard which a Pocket Bully is determined by its adult height.
Males under 17″ and no less than 14″ at the withers. Females under 16″ and no less than 13″ at the withers.
STANDARD
The American Bully should give the impression of great strength for it’s size. It is a compact and medium/large size dog with a muscular body and blocky head. The American Bully should have the appearance of heavy bone structure with a bulky build and look.
Males 17 inches — 20 inches (43 cm — 51 cm) at the withers. Females 16 inches — 19 inches (40 cm — 48 cm) at the withers.
CLASSIC
This is an amendment to the basic standard. A Classic Bully is determined by it’s body structure and build. Both sex dogs with lighter body frames and less overall body mass, but still exibiting “bully” traits.
Classic Bully variety is simply an American Bully dog having lighter body frames (lighter bone) and less overall body mass (less substance) than the Standard American Bully. Aside from this difference, the Classic Bully variety follows the same standard as the Standard American Bully.
XL
This is an amendment to the basic standard, determined by it’s adult height. It is important to note that the XL Bully variety is simply taller than the Standard American Bully. XL dogs share the same build, body type and breed type as the Standard American Bully.
Males over 20″-23″ at the withers. Females over 19″-22″ at the withers.
Now that you have a basic understanding of the different classes of the American Bully breed and that that a dog’s height (and sometimes build) determine what class they fit in, let’s move on to discuss important things to consider before having a litter for those considering having puppies.
Below we cover important things to consider before making the decision to have a litter or to become a breeder.
BEFORE DECIDING TO BECOME AN AMERICAN BULLY BREEDER
Before making the commitment to become a breeder and establish your own bloodline, an honest appraisal of your resources is in order.
First, do you have the money and time to invest in this endeavor? A large kennel facility is usually not necessary if you get two or three quality “foundation” bitches to begin with. Do you have cash on hand for progesterone testing, artificial inseminations, emergency c-sections, vet bills, and proper care for the puppies?
BE PREPARED
Are you prepared if one of your breeding females becomes ill or develops an infection like pyometra? Do you have 3K–5K saved in the event of an emergency? One of the he worst possible things that you can do is to make the decision to become a breeder and then being unable to care for your dogs in the event of an emergency.
More important than space and money is the commitment to the pups that you will be producing. For breeders to know if their breeding program is successful, ongoing evaluation of the pups is essential. Most of us do not have unlimited space, so placing pups in good homes where they will receive adequate care and nutrition, training and evaluation is going to be essential.
DO YOUR HOMEWORK
Once you’ve done your homework, have your resources in order, decided on a class and have made the decision you’re willing to commit to everything required to responsibly breed dogs, you’re going to want to start by purchasing foundation stock.
PURCHASING “FOUNDATION” DOGS
Venom daughter Khaleesi
“First you will need to the right kennel to purchase from. Personally I started out with two males and a female, but that was not the best move. I wish someone had advised us to start with females!
Unfortunately I had to learn through trial and error, but to anyone reading this, you can save 3–4 years of time by listening to me on this one. If your goal is to become a breeder, you’re going to want to start with quality females. You’ll want to get your foundation females from a kennel that has been around for a while.”
Be sure to get detailed pedigree information on the dogs to ensure you are getting a quality linebred dog(meaning that the same ancestors appear more than once in the 4 generation pedigree) Linebred dogs usually produce more consistent litters. Kennels that have been around for a while, that have quality productions to show and an idea about what they’re doing will usually linebreed.
DHB/Venomline’s Apache at 10 months
PRODUCTIONS MATTER
There’s plenty of overnight breeders hyping up their litters as the best thing since sliced bread, but most don’t havethe productions to back up the hype. Has the breeder produced any Champions or Grand Champions? What Studs have they produced? Have the females that they’ve produced turn out to becomequality breeding stockfor other kennels? How do some of the later picks on their litters turn out?
This will say a lot about the consistency of a breeding program.
Once you have purchasedfoundation femalesto build your program with, the next step is to decide on a Stud.
DECIDING TO USE A STUD
Most breeders offer a stud service. If you are new to breeding dogs, you should take advantage of this.
STUD SERVICE
Many that get started in the dog breeding business usually purchase a stud dog or two along with some female dogs. As Venomline discussed above, the better way of going about this is to start off by purchasing female dogs.
When they are ready to be bred you can contact kennels that offer stud service or contact the kennel you purchased the female from for use of their Studs. Housing, feeding, and taking care of stud dogs is expensive and you’re not always guaranteed to have a great stud dog once they mature.
Louis V Line’s Venom
BENEFITS OF USING A STUD FROM A BREEDER RATHER THAN PURCHASING ONE YOURSELF:
1. Using a well known stud can help with litter sales
2. You can line breed your dog using the kennel that you purchased your female from. (Line breeding will produce more consistent litters)
3. You could end up waiting a year or two only to find out that the male that you purchased didn’t turn out to be a worthy stud dog. (Avoid this all together by using studs from a top breeder)
Many breeders will decide to breed their foundation female to a mediocre male (because that’s what they purchased) The outcome: usually a watered-down version of what was originally intended.
Doing this can set a breeder back several years, whereas “grading up” (the breeding of females on hand to a male of higher quality) can be a shortcut to success.
A STUD VS A “PROVEN” PRODUCER… THERE IS A DIFFERENCE
Louis V Line’s Omega
Any male dog that produces semen has the ability to become a Stud. But, a Stud that is a “Proven Producer” is one that can out produce themselves on a consistent basis. They are the few with the ability to stamp their look with every litter. Top producing dogs are most often inbred or linebred from an outstanding bloodline.
INBREEDING & LINEBREEDING
Inbreeding and line breeding produces a prepotent dog whose genetic material is homozygous. Homozygous is a term that indicates that the gene pairs are the same. Since only one gene is inherited from each parent, if the parents are related, as in inbreeding and line breeding, the chance of doubling up the gene pair is greater than in the case of breeding unrelated dogs, or outcross breeding.
The term prepotent means a dog that can produce offspring with his same characteristics. The reason is that a dog that is homozygous for a certain trait will pass this trait 100% of the time to their offspring.
A breeding dog needs to be selected based on the dogs bloodline, the method of breeding that produced the dog (inbreeding or line breeding) as well as the individual attributes that the dog will bring to the breeding program.A dog produced from an outcrossed breeding that is heterozygous (the gene pairs being different) for a certain trait, even though they themselves have the trait will pass the trait on to their offspring only 50% of the time.
Understanding these simple principles will help anyone who’s serious about becoming a Top Breeder pass up the competition, sometimes in just a few generations.
SHOW DOGS VS STUD DOGS
One of the biggest mistakes that breeders, novice or veteran, can make is to confuse their show dogs with their breeding dogs. They can be the same. We hope they will be the same. Often they are not.There are those who say show wins are the indicator of a dog’s value to the breed. In other words, if many judges agree a particular dog is the current ideal in its breed, the dog should be bred to. I agree — but only to a degree.
“A dog can be a truly great show dog and a poor sire. A dog can hate the show ring and never win a point and be an outstanding sire. It is just as simple as that.”
You can get every judge in the country to agree that the dog of the hour is the dog of the hour, but that same dog can be a complete disappointment in the breeding department.
If a dog’s quality is not realized in the whelping box, all we have is a box full of ribbons and nothing more.
CONFUSING SHOW DOGS WITH PRODUCING STUDS
Venom son Enoch
This is not to say a winning dog cannot also be an outstanding producer. Records prove otherwise. But I cannot stress strongly enough that it is the producing ability that must be looked to and not the show record! Even the outstanding show sire can be misused. Most breeds have had those truly wonderful show dogs who develop records that become the envy of one and all. Unfortunately, they become the envy of too many who feel if a dog is good enough to win every award in sight, it must be good enough to breed every female in sight.
In a way, the popular show dog that produces well only with certain female lines can be very destructive to a breed. A few excellent youngsters emerge from the right combination and the parade begins. Every female that can see lightning and hear thunder is bred to the dog, but the percentage of quality produced is minuscule. The breed takes a big step backward.
TRULY GREAT SIRES ARE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN
Truly great sires are really few and far between. There’s an old saying I heard somewhere along the way that goes something like, “You can breed that one to a fence post and you’ll still get good pups.”
They are the rare ones, the ones that any breed is lucky to have, but it is highly doubtful that any breed will have such a dog any more than once in any breeder’s lifetime.
— Rick Beauchamp
Richard G. (Rick) Beauchamp is the Best Selling Author of Solving the Mysteries of Breed Type and Breeding Dogs for Dummies. He has judged all breeds throughout the world and was one of the United Kennel Club’s first all breed judges.
BECOMING AN AMERICAN BULLY BREEDER
Now that you have a basic understanding of the importance of starting out with quality foundation females as brood stock, as well as the importance of selecting a Stud that’s proven as a Producer, the next step is to establish a breeding plan. Doing this alone will set you apart from the competition. Trust us when we tell you, they’re not doing this.
Breeding a litter of pups is not the same as becoming a breeder and developing a bloodline.
We have within our breed bloodlines that are known for producing great dogs as well as bloodlines that are known for producing mediocre dogs with certain problems, i.e. conformation faults, health issues, temperament faults etc.
The newcomer that is interested in developing a’ bloodline’ must understand that it is more that having your name carried as a part of the registered name of the dog. It is the development of a family of dogs that breed true for breed characteristics that you deem as essential and desirable, and that have been selectively bred into your family of dogs.
STEPS TO BECOMING A BREEDER
A) Number one is to identify those breed characteristics that you want to see reproduced in the dogs that you will produce. Identifying your individual list of characteristics that you want to develop in your bloodline requires that you are familiar with the breed character and are knowledgeable about the breed standards that have been established. You will also need knowledge about structural soundness and genetic health issues within the breed.
B) To develop an eye for a dog, to be able to evaluate one dog from another in terms of those traits that you are breeding for.
II. SELECTION OF BROOD STOCK
Once a breeder has developed a breeding plan, an evaluation of the brood stock that you are going to be using is the next step. First and foremost, the individual stud dog or brood bitch must possess the outstanding traits that the breeder is looking for in the offspring. The mating of animals with similar characteristics tends to produce offspring that resemble themselves. This is known as like-to-like, type-to-type or positive assortive mating.
“Pedigrees are great, but they don’t mean jack if the two dogs being bred don’t carry the desired look/traits. Look at the dogs in front of you.”
It is obvious that breeders should avoid mating animals with the same faults, as this type of mating will also tend to produce offspring with those faults set within the family of dogs.
III. PEDIGREE ANALYSIS
An analysis of the dog’s pedigree is the third but equally important step that must be considered in the selection of brood stock. For novices, a dog’s pedigree is usually meaningless. For the experienced fancier, the pedigree is a profile of genetic potential, containing an unlimited amount of information. Knowledge about the individual dogs in the pedigree can be obtained firsthand from the dog’s breeder.
Pictures and information on the dogs can frequently be obtained from the numerous breed magazines and breeders websites. Conformation titles on the individual dogs can also be used in compiling your database of information on the dog’s pedigree. After a number of years into a person’s breeding program, the breeder will have first hand knowledge of the dogs making up the pedigree of the breeding stock.
Also a database of information concerning the littermates as well as offspring from repeat breedings should be available to the breeder. This first hand information will always be the most reliable if the breeder remains objective. You can find the offspring a dog has produced in online pedigree databases such as Bullypedia and BullyPedex.
“You will want to become familiar with these. You’re going to want to add your own productions once you start having them. But perhaps more importantly, you can research which breeding pairs and bloodlines produced top dogs. There is almost unlimited information at people’s fingertips, but most are too damn lazy to use it.”
SHOWS & EVENTS
Attendance atshows and conformation events, having discussions with successful breeders and talking to judges and exhibitors about the breed can also enhance one’s understanding. A study of the literature available about the breed and about dogs, genetics and breeding in general is also essential. The breeding of fine dogs is an art, with a strong scientific basis.
What a breeder seeks to produce, the ideal that he formulates, is his or her self expression — the fulfillment of the creative urge. That lies the joy of breeding dogs. The emphasis a breeder places upon soundness, a great head, correct fronts or backend declares his own nature.
The breeder who would achieve a consistent color or size at the cost of breed type or honest structure is a different kind of person from one who prefers a correctly made dog.
Read that again out loud.
All quality bloodlines have been established by incorporating quality brood stock from someone else’s bloodline. It is not often that you will be able to incorporate a pet quality bitch or dog into your breeding program and expect to produce consistent quality pups.
THE FATHER OF MODERN GENETICS AND THE MAN WHO APPLIED IT TO ANIMAL BREEDING
Although Gregor Mendel is the father of modern genetics, Jay Lush is the fellow who brought genetics to animal breeding. Lush was a student of Sewall Wright, who devised the coefficient of inbreeding, and a background in both genetics and mathematics allowed him to develop animal breeding into a quantitative science.
Perhaps his most important contribution is a book first published in 1937 called Animal Breeding Plans, in which he laid the foundations on which the scientific breeding of both animals and plants still rest today. While parts are necessarily outdated now, much of what he wrote is as useful today as it was then.
INBREEDING VS LINEBREEDING
Most breeders know about inbreeding and linebreeding but find it difficult to clearly distinguish between them. Usually inbreeding is considered to be breeding among first-order relatives (e.g., sibling to sibling, parent to offspring), and linebreeding is a fuzzy version of “not as close as inbreeding”. When Lush discusses linebreeding in his book, though, he clearly distinguishes between linebreeding and what he calls “other forms of inbreeding”, which he simply defines as breeding between relatives.
For every generation that passes between the ancestor and the present, its influence is reduced by half. To avoid this progressive dilution, “linebreeding takes advantage of the laws of probability as they affect Mendelian inheritance to hold the expected amount of inheritance from an admired ancestor at a nearly constant level. “Linebreeding provides, so to speak, a ratchet mechanism for holding any gains already made by selection, while attempting to make further gains.”
CARRYING THE TORCH
Any time that a significant advancement in any field is made (especially science) it is often left at the feet of the next generation. Equally important are the ones who pick up the torch and expand upon the point where the previous generation’s research left off.
By the early 1950’s, Lloyd C. Brackett had become a legend in his own time. In part because of the quality of the dogs he produced and in part because of his candor when addressing problems related to the breeding of canines. He had much to say about the selection of sires, how to correct problems and how to make improvements. Brackett was considered one of the fathers of the German Shepherd breed in the United States.
90 CHAMPIONS OVER 12 YEARS
At the time of his death he was the oldest living continuous fancier of the breed (since 1912). His kennel was called Long Worth and he is remembered throughout the dog world for his theories about breeding methods. Brackett was well read and a quick learner. Through his writings he shed light on the confusion and misunderstandings associated with line and inbreeding. One of his greatest achievements was to have produced over 90 champions in twelve years.
All of his methods and ideas were not new. For example, he combined the study of pedigrees with the results they produced. After years of watching what combinations produced the better offspring he refined his ideas about how to select breeding partners.
BRACKETT’S FORMULA
Out of these experiences came a formula that later he would make him famous. The formula was not new but his ideas about how to use it attracted attention. Breeders of domestic animals had used it for years. It relied on the principles of line and inbreeding. But it was Brackett and his approach to planned breedings that made it well known.
Venomline’s Rampage
Brackett believed in pedigree analysis, litter evaluation, the use of line and inbreeding and a record system that was easy to use. Those ideas are what set him apart from others who did little more than practice the art of breeding. While Brackett is best known for his emphasis on the use of linebreeding he was not afraid to inbreed if the situation dictated it.
He believed that it made no sense to go forward with breeding before the needed information about the sire and dam had been collected. He placed great emphasis on health, temperament and breed characteristics. His planned breedings were based on the results that occurred in his pups. In other words, he learned from his mistakes.
Brackett understood the value of using quality dogs that were related to each other. This approach allowed him to concentrate the genes needed to produce desired traits. His techniques for reducing error and improving quality focused on the careful selection of breeding partners. They were central to maintaining and improving specific traits while at the same time reducing disease and other unwanted problems.
CONSISTENCY & TYPE
Brackett became famous for breeding quality dogs with consistent type. His strategy relied on a series of breedings using relatives. Often times he was quoted as saying, “never outcross when things seem to be going well, do it only as an experiment or when some fault or faults cannot be eliminated”.
He was careful to study each stud dog and their offspring, eliminating those who did not measure up and those who produced faults. Close inspection of his pedigrees show that many of his sires were themselves inbred or line bred and most were usually related in some way to the bitches in his breeding program.
LINEBREEDING
Brackett’s success helped to make line breeding popular. He demonstrated how to make improvements by retaining a common pool of genes through the use of related dogs. He believed that out-crossing was the least desirable method because it introduced new genes into his pedigrees, which in turn produced differences and genetic variations among the offspring.
It has been well documented that two full-brothers usually do not have the same genetic potential even though they both come from the same two parents. One sibling might inherit one set of genes from his father and the other might get a different set from an uncle through his mother. While each pup always receives half of its genes from the sire and half from the dam it does not mean that they each will get the same set of genes.
This explains why littermates do not always look alike or have the same capacity to produce quality. Brackett kept detailed records on the differences between siblings. He was well read on this subject and occasionally mentioned the works of Aristotle and Mendel in his articles. In practice they all shared similar beliefs.
Brackett was concerned about the future of breeding better dogs and the lack of breeder education programs. He believed that “the majority of dog breeders formulate no breeding plan and seldom if ever, when mating, consider how they will mate any of the resultant produced offspring.”
The formula Brackett preferred concentrated genes in a pedigree. He did this by placing emphasis on the sire of the sire.
In Figure 1, notice that the same dog appears on the sire and the dam’s side of the pedigree. Brackett liked to use one important dog and have it appear twice in a three-generation pedigree.
The basic formula he preferred can be stated as follows, “Let the sire of the sire become the grand sire on the dam’s side”. Said another way, “let the father’s father become the mothers grandfather.”
BRACKETT’S FORMULA APPLIED: A REAL LIFE EXAMPLE
According to Brackett’s formula, which we are using in this particular example, males from this breeding would have ideal pedigrees with potential as Studs in Brackett’s program. Obviously we don’t breed solely according to Brackett’s formula, but it is one of the advanced breeding techniques that has proven successful for many breeders in a number of different breeds over the years. There are many other advanced breeding techniques and methods that we will cover in future articles.
SEPARATE YOURSELF FROM THE COMPETITION
If you ever wonder how some kennels seem to always produce top quality dogs and consistent litters, while others can take a great dog from a great line and run it to shit in just a few short years? The answer is usually pretty simple. 99% of breeders (especially in the American Bully breed) don’t do any research, have no understanding of basic genetics, couldn’t name a single breeding technique and have no breeding plan.
Their gameplan: breed two dogs that “look good” together.
Most have not put in the work to hone their craft. Yet they will be surprised and upset when they don’t end up with your results.
You can pass up the competition in just a few short years by dedicating the time and energy to study up on those who have had success and by applying those techniques to your breeding plan.
You don’t have to be a rocket scientist either. I’m not. Far from it. But you have a small supercomputer with unlimited information in your pocket. Quit being lazy and Google some shit. Respectfully, of course.
TYPES OF BREEDINGS
We have covered the basics of linebreeding, inbreeding, outcrossing, backbreeding and grading up in previous articles. In our next article, we will weigh the benefits and risks of each as well as going into further detail on each as well and also when an outcross should definitely be considered.
Louis V Line’s Venom “Chunk” has blessed us more than we could possibly ever repay and has done the same for kennels across the globe as one of the best to ever do it “Chunk” will continue to be used, but solely in our program and in those which booked him ahead of time.
For everyone who put their trust in our program- we appreciate every single one of you. Most importantly, thank you George for producing Chunk and the great work with Louis V Line and also for trusting our family with him.
On a serious note, he did more than enough to cement his Legacy in the bully world. It’s now time for Chunky to enjoy retirement, play with his ball and chill on the couch. He’ll sit back and relax as he proudly watches his sons Rampage, Savage & King V each begin legacies of their own.
LEGENDS LIVE FOREVER
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There are Studs and then there’s STUDS.
There are “Proven Producers” that create a few nice dogs and then there’s the select few that have the “gift.”
Dogs that create dynasties.
Louis V Line’s Venom, a Stud that consistently out produced himself, dropped bombs with every bloodline imaginable, produced pocket monsters with classics, and Sired multiple ABKC Champions with yet another 50+ young offspring pointed toward Titles.
The crazy part is the majority of his offspring won’t even hit adulthood until he retires.
Is Chunk enjoying retirement? I don’t know, I’ll have to ask him. I think so..
VENOMLINE STUDS
VENOMLINE’S RAMPAGE
Many people have asked us “why retire Venom in his prime?” Well, why not when we have sons of his like Rampage, Savage (new photos coming next week) and King V? Chunk did his thing for years, now it’s time for him to relax and enjoy just being a dog. He’s had his time in the spotlight and now it’s his kids time to shine.
There’s nothing worse than when breeders continue to use 7+ year old studs that are well beyond their prime. Chunk is happy, healthy and has blessed our family (along with many other families and breeding programs across the globe) and we want to keep him that way. Plus, we have a few of his best sons that are just entering adulthood that are just too badass to be kept hidden in the shadows.
Check out some of the Next Gen Studs below.
We’ll start with 18 month old 2X Venom son Rampage.
RAMPAGE “GEORGE” THE CHAMPAGNE GORILLA
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Redefining the Definition of Extreme on a Pocket frame
Undeniably one of Louis V’s best and top producing sons- Louis V Line’s Omega will be returning toBULLY KING Magazineas an Official Mascot for the 2019-2020 Calendar year. Omega first became Mascot for the #1 Bully Breed Magazine back in 2017.
OMEGA THE “LITTLE POLAR BEAR”
Omega is one of the most aesthetically pleasing dogs I’d ever seen. He just stands out, from his all white coat, to his incredible build, big blocky head and short muzzle, to his muscle mass and structure. Venom’s 1/2 brother is just one beautiful dog. He’s also short and compact, along with a short back which I love.
This is a Pocket Bully with substance, possessing all of the big dog features, and Extreme traits desired in the breed, on a 14.5″ frame without being overdone.
Omega is also a phenomenal producer, probably one of the most underrated Stud dogs in the country.
Omega is responsible for producing several ABKC Pocket Champions like his brother Venom and he’ll l be going to some of ourbest femalesover the next year. When the people start to witness what this boy is capable of.. with our caliber of females.. this will be one of the most in demand studs in the country, just likehis brother Venom.
Omega (like all of our Studs) is a triple carrier, meaning he can produce all colors including every tri color variation. He carries both lilac & chocolate and throws a lot of tri colored bullies for those looking to add color.
So don’t let that white coat fool you.. this is a Stud that throws a lot of color in addition to producing extreme build Pocket Bullies with substance, structure & drive. Not to mention signature headpieces and short, thick boned up puppies with some of the thickest rears of any living Stud.
Omega is one of the best at producing Extreme, pocket height dogs that can still excel in the Show Ring and win any stack off.
VENOMLINE’S SAVAGE
Another Venom son from the first 2X Venom breeding (Venom X Moana).
We will be shooting updated photos and video of this Lilac Tri beast in the next week or so. Believe it or not, Savage, who answers to the call name “Tito” was only 14-15 months old in these photos.
Prepare for jaws to drop when we release photos of him now at 18 months. Check Savage out below at just 11 months old with his dad Venom.
Savage is another young, up & coming Pocket Bully Stud with a very bright future ahead of him.
Stay tuned for next week’s photoshoot where we show him off at 18 months!
VENOMLINE’S KING V
Up next at just under 9 months old is Venomline’s King V.
This dude is a trip! He might be the happiest bully in the house next to his dad Chunk. But King V is a sweetheart, he greets his mom every single morning with a big hug and looks over at his brothers and sisters as if to rub it in their faces.
When he’s not shitting on the floor, you can see blips of him flying through the house, dive bombing his dad from the couch, sliding across the tile floor and crashing into walls, couches, sliding glass windows and TVs. This dude has one speed and hasn’t figured out yet how to brake.
I just see a smiling face sliding by from pretty much any room I’m in.
NEW ADDITION TO THE CAMP
Our newest addition to the camp is a beautiful black tri colored female from Grand Champion Rocko X Swizz. It was extremely difficult to make our selection on this litter, all of the females looked incredible and having a tough time making a pick on a litter is always a good problem to have.
Swizz produced some amazing bulls with Venom in her 1st litter and impressed us again in her match up with GrCh Rockomania.
We haven’t yet decided on a name just yet, but should soon have one. Anyways, here is our keeper female from the litter.
TEDDY HEADED TO SMALL TOWN DYNASTY KENNELS
Venom son “Teddy” the Venom son that looked just like he was hand crafted at Build-A-Bear is headed to his new forever home with a loving family over at Small Town Dynasty Kennels.
VENOMLINE FEMALES
Venomline femaleshave a reputation for being some of the “bulliest” and most Extreme females on the planet.
What separates us from many other breeders are thefemalesthat “make the cut” to be included in our breeding program. It’s simple to use a top Stud, anyone can do that… but at Venomline, we know that it takes both aTop level Studand a Top Level bitch to produce quality litters on a consistent basis.
Femalesare integral to the success of any breeding program. Without using quality females to pair with Top Studs, litters more than likely just end up being a watered down version of what was initially intended. Knowing this, our primary focus for the past 8 years has been to produce the best possiblePocket Bully Femalesto match up with ourTop Tier Studs.
One thing that we never lost sight of as we added the dense bone, big blocky heads, muscular builds and Extreme features, is producing a complete dog. A lot of the “Extreme” American Bullies today, at least many of the dogs being marketed as such.. are not what we would consider a complete American Bully.
FOUNDATION & NEXT GENERATION FEMALES OF VENOMLINE
It’s easy to add mass and Extreme features… what’s not easy is producing those qualities on a complete, functional American Bully. One with angulation along with a thick strong rear that exhibits the extreme traits that differentiate this breed from it’s predecessors and is still functional. If a dog can’t run and play, in our opinion.. that’s a failure.
We aim to produce dogs that will not only stack with any dog that’s brave enough to stand next to them, but can also excel inside of the show ring.There are not too many kennels that are currently combining the “wow factor” and extreme traits desired in the breed while also producing balanced dogs from head to rear that can still succeed in the show ring.
VENOMLINE’S SAVAGE
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The breed is known for having an affinity toward children (they love kids) and a surprising ability to pick up on the emotions of their owners. A breed with a fun and quirky personality, a zest for life and an exuberant will to please their family. They are friendly with strangers, other dogs and most other animals. Human or dog aggression, extreme shyness or viciousness is very uncharacteristic of the American Bully and is highly undesirable.
DHB/Venomline’s Apache at 10 months
Louis V Line’s Omega
Venom son Enoch
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